Curtsey and Bow

Upstart Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 36

Whoops! Sorry, Mel. I said "Fanny's brother-in-law." Robert was her brother.
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Poor Relation Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 95

I wouldn't know, I haven't watched that movie in a long time. Thanks, though! I hope I have no more trivial or weird questions to ask until the next scene--according to No Plot? No Problem! I should have reached ten thousand words on my NaNoWriMo novel yesterday, and I'm at three thousand...

Poor Relation Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 95

Two hundred words later...

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:22 am Post subject:

It's the manner of introduction that is important. The lower ranking person is always presented TO the higher ranking person, eg: "Your Grace, may I present Miss Darling" but NEVER "Miss Darling, may I present Her Grace the Duchess of Devonshire".
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Upstart Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 36

I have been told that those titled get announced at balls by their highest ranking title. This I get. But, I have two questions about how announcing worked.

1. Would it be "His grace, the duke of PlaceName and Her grace the duchess of PlaceName" or rather shortened and a little more casual? "The duke and duchess of PlaceName"
2. Would you include "Dowager" in the title being used by the announcer at the ball?

Thanks, Kids! study

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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: Re: formal announcing at balls

Upstart Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 36

MORE ON ANNOUNCING AT BALLS...

1. What about a marquess? Is it:
"The Marquess and Marchioness of PlaceName"
or
"The Marquess PlaceName and the Marchioness PlaceName"
or
"His lordship, the Marquess of PlaceName and Her ladyship, the Marchioness of PlaceName"

3. Going with the above examples, do you need to include "His lordship" on Earl and Marquess, being upper aristocracy?

4. On viscount and baron, is it:
"Lord LastName and Lady LastName"

5. Last one. If a duchess and marquess decide to enter a ball together, is this correct?:
"Her grace, the duchess of PlaceName and His lordship the marquess of PlaceName"

Whew! THANK YOU!

P.S. - I know, Kalen, I'm being seriously nitpicky, aren't I? But once I get it down, I can stop that. Wink

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Upstart Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Posts: 36

Keira,

Totally off the subject, I'm in love with your picture! An Asian regency beauty. Very pretty. lieb hab

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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject:

Thanks, Grace. I think I found her on a layered vintage card somehwere and took just the top.
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:35 pm Post subject: Awkward situation

Hello dear people,

I am at the vital 'hero first meets heroine' part. It's a bit of an unusual situation in that there is no one to make the introduction...The heroine has fallen and the hero, realizing she would not appreciate being 'swooped up' and not a real 'swooping up' kind of guy, feels that the best thing would be to inject as much normality into the awkward meeting as possible.

He approaches heroine, bows, and introduces himself and extends his hand to lift her up.

Question does the sequence sound right or should he introduce himself then bow or does he only bow to her when she introduces herself (after she has been helped to her feet).

And she, being the proper miss, after she is helped up to her feet, would she curtsy then introduce herself, or introduce herself then curtsy.

The curtsy is the polite acknowledgement of the person being introduced to...but I am not sure of the sequence of events.

I know this is nit-picky but hero is a very proper gentleman and he would not get it wrong. I'm trying to grock my brain around the scene, and it stumbles here for lack of info.

Thank you for any help in this direction,

Wentworth
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Upstart Joined: 16 Oct 2008 Posts: 12 Location: Atlanta

The etiquette books I have read ( from a later period than the Regency) all say that while a lesser rank is presented to the superior rank, a gentleman is always presented to a lady. That is the lady always has the right to refuse to accept an introduction.
Even if a lady accepts an introduction at a dance the gentleman never presumes to think that this is a blanket acceptance of his acquaintance. She has to acknowledge him first the next time they meet.
Duelling etiquette books at dawn?
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:50 pm Post subject: This is what I had thought

My dear Nancy,

Thank you for your answer, I guess what I am asking is what if there is no one around (yes! horrors!) to make the introduction. It seems too weird for my hero to just extend his hand without saying anything.

Your humble servant,

Wentworth
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: bowing and scraping