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KalenHughes
Viscountess of the Manor Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1100	Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: A question about "Spencers"   gasawaye wrote: This is just facinating! I'm a big Austen fan who's never seen such detail in real period dresses before. I've always wondered about how spencers got their name. Is there a connection with the aristocratic family of that name? I'm glad you're enjoying the information. Historical clothing is a real passion of mine. The "story" of the spencer is that Earl Spencer caught his coat on fire and burned the tails off. He then said that women were so easily swayed that if he wore it around it would become the fashion . . . I have my doubts that this is true. I've never seen any actual documentation to back this myth up. _________________ -Kalen w/a Isobel Carr Ripe for Pleasure, May 2011 Book 1: The League of Second Sons www.isobelcarr.com
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mariepezzuto
Encroaching Mushroom Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 160	Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject:   Thanks for all the great photos and info, Kalen! This topic is thoroughly facinating to me ever since I saw Becoming Jane. I though they got the costumes wrong in that movie. I was wondering about the shoes worn with round gowns. Was there a special style?
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Lucky47
Influential Member of the Ton Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 287 Location: New Jersey	Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Hi   Hi Marie, I just have to tell you your picture of Fabio is fantastic. love him ! carol
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KalenHughes
Viscountess of the Manor Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1100	Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject:   mariepezzuto wrote: I was wondering about the shoes worn with round gowns. Was there a special style? When clothing underwent a transformation, so did shoes. Gone are the high-heeled shoes of the 18th century, with their latchets and bejeweled buckles. From the 1790s on the trend was flat (if there is a heel at all, it’s VERY low), and that stays true until the mid-Victorian era. Progression: 1790 1795 1810 1820 _________________ -Kalen w/a Isobel Carr Ripe for Pleasure, May 2011 Book 1: The League of Second Sons www.isobelcarr.com
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KeiraSoleore
Moderator Princess Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 5898 Location: Seattle	Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:50 am    Post subject:   The 1810 slippers remind of the ballet pointe shoes. _________________ Medieval & Regency Writer keirasoleore.blogspot.com
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Lucky47
Influential Member of the Ton Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 287 Location: New Jersey	Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject:   KeiraSoleore wrote: The 1810 slippers remind of the ballet pointe shoes. Yes, I agree Keira. I never would have been able to wear any of them except, maybe the ballet shoe because of how narrow the looked. Thanks Kalen. Carol
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mariepezzuto
Encroaching Mushroom Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 160	Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject:   Hi Carol! I love that photo of Fabio best. I met him in California and he is just as gorjus as his photos. He's a real flirt too!! Kalen, the shoes look so uncomfortable! ... I don't know how they wore them in the rain. I suppose that leather shoes might have been worn in winter season.
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KalenHughes
Viscountess of the Manor Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 1100	Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject:   mariepezzuto wrote: Kalen, the shoes look so uncomfortable! ... I don't know how they wore them in the rain. I suppose that leather shoes might have been worn in winter season. They're not the most comfortable things in the world. You certainly wouldn't want to take a long ramble in them, LOL! That's what half-boots are for (not that those are much better). When it rained, and you HAD to go out, you wore pattens: Ok, these aren’t shoes, but they were worn over the shoe. In our era they usually comprised of a wooden platform sitting atop two metal rings, with a leather sandal or mule for the shod foot to rest in (think about trying to balance on this while walking across wet cobbles!). But simple platforms and “geta-type” clogs existed, too (not surprising considering the era’s obsession with all things Asian). The whole point of the patten is to help keep the feet dry, and/or to keep the shoes clean. Drawing of an 18th century patten with a metal ring (Kyoto Costume Institute has a similar extant example, but I couldn’t find a good image to scan) Extant 19th century patten with metal ring Above: Leather patten, c. 1825. Below: Leather Carriage Clog, c. 1830 (to keep your shoes clean while traveling). Supposedly a man’s patten, c. 1812 (but it’s shown with what looks like a woman’s half boot to me) _________________ -Kalen w/a Isobel Carr Ripe for Pleasure, May 2011 Book 1: The League of Second Sons www.isobelcarr.com
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Mandy N
Upstart Joined: 20 Feb 2011 Posts: 37 Location: Australia	Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2011 7:21 am    Post subject:   Wow, wish I'd spotted this discussion sooner. These images of Regency gowns and shoes are fantastic; Thanks so much for the share ! I particularly like the beautiful gold-colour outfit of a 1800-1810 gown with matching spencer- which appears to have a cross-over front ? Lovely fabrics and detailing...and much appreciate your commentary.
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